Monday, June 27, 2005

Indigenous Irish Catholics burned out as British colonial marchers gather

Angelique Chrisafis:

In the dead of night on the smart north Belfast cul-de-sac, a river of burning oil had scorched everything in its wake. The roof of one house had caved in and a children's playhouse, which four children had slept in a few days earlier, was a burnt-out shell.

If they had been there at 1am, when arsonists set an oil tank alight, causing two more to explode and sending a fireball through the edge of the estate, they would have been burned alive like their pet rabbit.

"We can't stay here now," said the children's father, Peter McCall, as the smell of smoke hung in the air. The McCalls are now abandoning this middle-class idyll of the new Northern Ireland.

The image of parents waking to the crackle of burning, wrenching children from their beds and throwing them over fences to safety is a throwback to the Troubles. Attacks still occur in working-class areas and on the homes of migrant workers. But in a leafy new mixed development of Catholics and Protestants, where most children attend the local integrated school, it is not supposed to happen.

When a group of youths told Catholic children from the estate "You are invading our territory and your houses are going to burn tonight", no one took it seriously.

Police are investigating a motive for Monday's attack in Old Throne Park. Sinn Féin said it was attempted murder, a sectarian act by loyalists to stoke tensions during the marching season, which began with violence last weekend and continues with the contentious Whiterock parade in Belfast tonight. This could mark the start of a fraught summer, the party warned.

When a Catholic church was burnt by arsonists in Portadown this week, a local priest appealed for no revenge attacks.

The first major parade of the Protestant marching season ended in chaos last weekend after Catholic demonstrators threw bottles and bricks and clashed with police after the return leg of the Orange Order's Tour of the North passed the nationalist Ardoyne shops in north Belfast.

This rundown and embittered interface between Protestant and Catholic communities who live behind dividing "peace walls" is a flash point of tension every year. This area of north Belfast suffered the most murders of the Troubles and the loyalist protests outside Holy Cross school four years ago still play strongly in people's minds.

Northern Ireland's chief constable, Hugh Orde, said the disturbances, in which 18 police officers and 11 others were injured, should serve as a "wake-up call" for the marching season.

Father Aidan Troy, the priest who led Catholic children to school during the Holy Cross dispute, warned that tension had descended to "the subhuman" and if the Irish or British governments did not intervene soon, someone could be killed.

More evidence that the only way to bring lasting peace to the north of Ireland is to relocate the British colonists back to Britain where their ancestors came from.

8 Comments:

At 8:44 AM, Anonymous daveb said...

erm,couple of questions Mr Tribesman. Whereabouts in Ireland are you from? Do you honestly believe the majority of catholics North and South would like to see the removal of all Protestant descendents back to Scotland?
What about the decendents of the Irish living in Scotland, England, America, anywhere?
Do you completely ignore all cultural development, integration and co-operation in Northern Ireland that, for better or for worse, been going on for 400 years.
Do you blame all Protestant descenents for the position their anscestors were put in by their British rulers 400 years ago ? do you not regognise that in 400 years a lot can happen?
are you mental?

 
At 11:38 AM, Blogger Diarmid said...

Whereabouts in Ireland are you from?

I was born in Drogheda and spent most of the first 20 years of my life in south Armagh.

Do you honestly believe the majority of catholics North and South would like to see the removal of all Protestant descendents back to Scotland?

This blog is an expression of my own opinions. If others disagree then they can start their own blogs.

What about the decendents of the Irish living in Scotland, England, America, anywhere?

The Irish are not running colonies in Britain or anywhere else but the British are running one in Ireland.

Do you completely ignore all cultural development, integration and co-operation in Northern Ireland that, for better or for worse, been going on for 400 years.

"Cultural development" is no excuse for colonialism.

Do you blame all Protestant descenents for the position their anscestors were put in by their British rulers 400 years ago?

Why should the indigenous Irish have to suffer the consequences of what the British did? Let the colonists go back to Britain and get justice from the British for what they did to their ancestors.

do you not regognise that in 400 years a lot can happen?

Unfortunately the main thing to happen in the north of Ireland in the last 400 years has been British colonialism.

are you mental?

No.

 
At 3:42 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

....and , in case you are interested , 'daveb' , I help to write the below-listed blog , live in Dublin [born and bred] , and fully support 'Mr. Tribesman''s following comment -

Why should the indigenous Irish have to suffer the consequences of what the British did? Let the colonists go back to Britain and get justice from the British for what they did to their ancestors.

Thank you for reading this far , 'daveb' ,

Sharon.
http://1169andcounting.blogspot.com

 
At 2:56 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

More evidence that the only way to bring lasting peace to the north of Ireland is to relocate the British colonists back to Britain where their ancestors came from.


YEAH AND ALL THE SO-CALLED IRISH AMERICANS AND "IRISH" IN AUSTRALIA NEW ZEALAND SCOTLAND ENGLAND WALES AND CANADA CAN GET BACK WHERE THEY BELONG TO RIGHT? HYPOCRITE.

 
At 3:03 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whereabouts in Ireland are you from?

I was born in Drogheda and spent most of the first 20 years of my life in south Armagh.

OH SO YOURE DESCENDED FROM VIKINGS THEN? GET BACK TO FUCKING DENMARK YOU FOREIGN A-HOLE.
IRISH? THERE AINT NO IRISH YOURE DESCENDED FROM NORSE NORMANS ANGLES SAXONS FLEMISH WELSH AND FRESIENS. THIS MYTH ABOUT ONE IRISH ETHNICITY IS NOT BACKED UP BY HISTORY. MAYBE YOU OUGHT TO READ ABOUT IT. DROGHEDA WAS FOUNDED BY NORSE. WHAT YOU LIVE THERE AND DONT KNOW THAT.


Do you honestly believe the majority of catholics North and South would like to see the removal of all Protestant descendents back to Scotland?

This blog is an expression of my own opinions. If others disagree then they can start their own blogs.

VERY MATURE ARENT YOU?

What about the decendents of the Irish living in Scotland, England, America, anywhere?

The Irish are not running colonies in Britain or anywhere else but the British are running one in Ireland.

BOLLOCKS! MANY OF THE PADDIES IN ENGLAND ARE INSULAR AND SELF SERVING. DONT GIVE ME THAT CRAP.

Do you completely ignore all cultural development, integration and co-operation in Northern Ireland that, for better or for worse, been going on for 400 years.

"Cultural development" is no excuse for colonialism.

WELL LEAVE FUCKING KILBURN THEN. THAT'S A PADDY COLONY.


Do you blame all Protestant descenents for the position their anscestors were put in by their British rulers 400 years ago?

Why should the indigenous Irish have to suffer the consequences of what the British did? Let the colonists go back to Britain and get justice from the British for what they did to their ancestors.

INDIGENOUS? HA! HA! EITHER YOU ARE DELIBERATELY IGNORING THE HISTORICAL FACTS OR YOURE IGNORANT. WHICH IS IT? TYPICAL COMMIE. ONLY TALK ABOUT WHAT FITS YOUR AGENDA. PATHETIC

do you not regognise that in 400 years a lot can happen?

Unfortunately the main thing to happen in the north of Ireland in the last 400 years has been British colonialism.

are you mental?

No.

11:38 AM


Anonymous said...
....and , in case you are interested , 'daveb' , I help to write the below-listed blog , live in Dublin [born and bred] , and fully support 'Mr. Tribesman''s following comment -

Why should the indigenous Irish have to suffer the consequences of what the British did? Let the colonists go back to Britain and get justice from the British for what they did to their ancestors.

INDIGENOUS? FUCK OFF! YOU TALK SHITE.


Sharon.
http://1169andcounting.blogspot.com

3:42 PM


Anonymous said...
More evidence that the only way to bring lasting peace to the north of Ireland is to relocate the British colonists back to Britain where their ancestors came from.


YEAH AND ALL THE SO-CALLED IRISH AMERICANS AND "IRISH" IN AUSTRALIA NEW ZEALAND SCOTLAND ENGLAND WALES AND CANADA CAN GET BACK WHERE THEY BELONG TO RIGHT? HYPOCRITE.

2:56 PM

PLEASE REPLY AS I LIKE A GOOD LAUGH.

 
At 10:21 AM, Blogger Diarmid said...

YEAH AND ALL THE SO-CALLED IRISH AMERICANS AND "IRISH" IN AUSTRALIA NEW ZEALAND SCOTLAND ENGLAND WALES AND CANADA CAN GET BACK WHERE THEY BELONG TO RIGHT? HYPOCRITE.

If that is what the indigenous peoples of Australia and elsewhere want then fine.

 
At 10:23 AM, Blogger Diarmid said...

OH SO YOURE DESCENDED FROM VIKINGS THEN?

No. I am descended from the indigenous Irish population.

 
At 1:21 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm half Irish, quarter English, quarter Iroquoi. Where should I go?

 

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